Saturday, November 12, 2011

Kohler toilet in my home's basement constantly gives off a sound of running water. Is it leaking?Details below?

I put some dye in the tank and none leaked into the bowl. But the toilet keeps making the sound of water running. This ends when I turn off the water flow near the base of the toilet. None of the other Kohler toilets in my home make this noise. Your thoughts on this. Is the toilet leaking? Thanks.|||Take off tank lid. Now flush so the flapper comes up. You will see after most of the water is gone the flapper falls over a 2" hole at the bottom of the tank. That is suppose to seal tight as the weight of the water in the tank holds the flapper down.


Now you understand how it works. Flush it again - this time put your hands in there and hold the flapper open and with the other hand, use the pointer finger and rub it on the flap surface all the way around- - -also do the same around the hole on the top edge where the flapper would make contact. It may feel slightly slimey and your finger may get black from running it on the flapper rubber. The rubber is disintergrating slowly.


That thin layer of slime is what has been holding it open "just a shade" and letting water go down into the bowl forcing water down the sewer. "Because the bowl will never get overfull".





If the leaking does not stop after doing this operation, it may mean that there is a crack in the flapper rubber. You need to buy another flapper (Wal-Mart generic brand of flapper should fit the same way). Read the package in case there is different models of flappers for different toilet models but basically they are all the same.|||


if you put dye in the tank and none of it leaked into the bowl, i can't see


water leaking past the flapper, it would have to end up in the bowl. how about the thin hose from the tower to the overflow pipe,


the tower may be leaking through that hose to the overflow pipe. no dye wouldn't end up in the bowl, just pure running water.


this might be the only answer. take the top of the tank off, take that thin hose out of the overflow pipe and see if maybe just a little bit of water is coming out of it. i would replace the tower to solve this problem that overflow pipe sends water to the bowl below, that's the water that's always in the bowl so fumes from the sewer line can't come out of the toilet.


i'd bet money on this answer. you did the right thing by putting dye in the water, but it's evident the problem is not with the flapper or the ring that the flapper fits in. if that were the problem there would be dye in the bowl, but dye can't get into the overflow pipe. that pipe also prevents the tank from filling all the way up and overflowing onto the floor.


good luck to ya|||It sounds like it may be leaking through the refill valve. Check the small tube that runs from the flush valve into the overflow pipe. It is there to refill the bowl after each flush. If it is leaking then the flush valve will need to be replaced or repaired.





This is the only type of leak I can think of that would cause a dye test would fail to find.





Bert|||some times the float can make a noise like it filling very slowly for some time does it eventually stop?

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